tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847189204161971538.post2979611221623508106..comments2023-11-13T03:11:41.509-08:00Comments on greenly chalked: Checking the OilUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847189204161971538.post-47588497573473836042009-02-07T09:21:00.000-08:002009-02-07T09:21:00.000-08:00You've sort of put your finger on an interesti...You've sort of put your finger on an interesting phenomenon here among LDS. Namely, the tendency to -- against their own theology -- deny that for gay people <i>other world happiness corresponds to or has anything to do with this world happiness</i>.J G-Whttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03557940681381951271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847189204161971538.post-10805045862024531282009-01-29T15:54:00.000-08:002009-01-29T15:54:00.000-08:00I can't help but think of prostate exams every...I can't help but think of prostate exams every time I read "Checking the Oil". I'm gross.Colinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08861061252989912232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847189204161971538.post-42854381702232953952009-01-29T09:25:00.000-08:002009-01-29T09:25:00.000-08:00Oi, I'm not looking to get dueling personal an...Oi, I'm not looking to get dueling personal and supernatural revaluations. It's a mobius strip as far as I can tell and, looking at J's post, I think I get the drift. In years past I've gone in circles trying to find even a common language on this topic but it typically just ends up being frustrating for everyone involved. At least I get to part knowing the other is wrong when they use false characterizations of our subjective feelings as proof off their hypothesis :-). <br><br>I'm glad, though, someone with that language is getting into it.Scothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12350801865113852319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847189204161971538.post-52906654406372276142009-01-29T08:48:00.000-08:002009-01-29T08:48:00.000-08:00Andrew:There's a handful of verses in the Scri...Andrew:<br><br>There's a handful of verses in the Scriptures that I have puzzled over for years and never been quite able to figure out. This is one of them. And I thank you for giving me some new insight that I had never thought of before.<br><br>I woke up this morning between 3:30 and 4 am and, unable to go back to sleep for some reason, did a quick blog check. I found your post and was so intrigued that I couldn't let it go. I immediately began looking up other references to Doc. & Cov. 93:30.<br><br>Most of what I found talked about "intelligences" being independent, but very few people had ventured to try to explain what was meant by "truth" being independent in its own sphere.<br><br>I was delighted to find that one probably authoritative source whom I deeply respect, Neal Maxwell, had actually discussed this briefly in a 1992 BYU Devotional talk called "The Inexhaustible Gospel, and even more delighted to find that his perspective was similar to yours! Here's the quote:<br><br>"it is clear from the verses of scripture that some truths may turn out to have a place in a yet-to-be-revealed hierarchy of truth that the world doesn't understand. The scriptures tantalize us by saying, 'All truth is independent in that sphere in which God has placed it' (D&C 93:30). One even wonders if truths, like planets, belong to a particular order (see Abraham 3:9). But we do not now know."<br><br>Your post has intrigued me so much that I'm going to keep digging, because as I said, this verse has always puzzled me and I don't like to be puzzled that way. For the moment, though, very satisfying to learn that somebody as smart and inspired as Neal Maxwell seems to look at this verse the way you have!Alanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02992194211469009236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6847189204161971538.post-35903974161736465412009-01-29T06:04:00.000-08:002009-01-29T06:04:00.000-08:00You have articulated what I feel but am not able t...You have articulated what I feel but am not able to explain in words.Abelard Enigmahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13166049686152203530noreply@blogger.com